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gonna beat you unconsciouswith my bigass clownshoes

fine

no kneeling

See, that’s what I like to hear. Dedication to the job

What criteria do you believe Echo is actually testing? By what measure is the worthiness of our worlds being measured? I've spoken with Aurora and she's not forthcoming on any details.

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fr me

I've been mulling over this information myself. I've found myself down a rabbit hole and uncertain if it is the right one or not. I believe our morality may be judged by how we feel about it.

For example, if you kill someone but feel no guilt about that kill; Echo will not view it as a sin or wrong. No matter how many people may be upset about the fact someone has died, if we know that person can come back, can we call our outrage "outrage?" Where are our feelings on the morality of resurrection and death? Where is it in the wrongs that we do?

If we truly see nothing wrong with the heinous actions that we commit, are we still sinners outside that universe? Can we be judged by the crimes we committed? By whose morality and why theirs? If enough consensus is built, will that create the morality of Etraya and Echo? Will that make the decision of who will be saved?

There are some universal standards of morality.

[She says it almost pleadingly. Life is a lot more complicated, she's realizing, than her upbringing had led her to believe, but she has to cling to the idea that some things still make sense.]

We can't condemn a world and all its inhabitants merely because one representative fails to live up to some sort of... morality by consensus. Or whatever the true standard of judgment is. If I – or Jinx – fail these tests, I don't understand why millions of people that neither of us have ever met should perish.

participation sticker, sure

a very small gold star for the weirdo (:

Possibly...

[ Of course, he wonders what it would look like - universal standards of morality. ]

Let me ask you something first, Caitlyn. Do you think the missions to come are collaborative or competitive? Which is to say do you think you're competing against everyone here to save your universe, or helping others to prove their worth?

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get into who is
a weirdo here

anyway
whenveryou're up forit
i'll happilychoke you

I...

The latter, I'd like to think.

[ Well, they are viewing things differently, but that works out for him. ]

Then, it makes sense that it can't be too easy for us. If everyone who is chosen is a good person like you, then how are we going to see what universes are worthwhile?

We have to struggle against our moralities and righteousness... and see if we can live up to what we have been. That is why I think more difficult people are brought... if we choose to abandon and leave them to die for our survival, do we deserve to live?

After all, part of the millions of people we're saving are people just like them.

[She hadn't considered that before, but it makes sense. From a certain perspective, at least. Still, she's struggling with the morality of all of this. Not just Jinx and her presence, but Echo too.]

I don't see why we should need to prove whether or not we deserve to live. Life isn't a matter of deserving or undeserving, really. Why should anyone, including Echo, get to choose who lives and who dies?

[Hank could refute that first bit. He could.]

Good to know you’re all roaring and ready to go

[Is it, though? Is it??]

Thought maybe i’d weirded you out with all this. Which would be fair.

I’d be fuckin weirded out

Life is, indeed, more than those two factors.

[ It's also profit and loss - and how useful any life is. ]

I suppose that, too, is the morality that we're fighting to prove here, too. And, perhaps, even if there is a finite amount of universes that can survive, it doesn't mean that those representatives who are here aren't among the unchosen.

What if those who have no representatives are lost but we are all saved? [ Another fun little thought, if he's honest. ]